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| Subject: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:56 pm | |
| Day 2
The second day dawned crisps and clear, always a bad omen in the secretary's native Vietnam. Without the cover of clouds and rain... its easier for them to get you...
Today when the bells tolled to signal 9 a.m., the double doors moved on their own to close. This time however, they did not shut all the way. Today the debates would commence, and in the grand tradition of the Confederation, all opinions would be allowed until the very last moment.
Rising from her seat once more, Secretary Ng would welcome the delegates back, forgoing polite formalities and getting straight to the point. Yesterday's tally of Yays and Nays flashed on the giant wall screen behind her, calculating the fate of the world.
The floor would be opened to discussion once more where candidates would have the opportunity to ask questions of other candidates and clarify their own points in turn. Once again, the list of participating countries in alphabetical order would determine who went first. List of countries being represented:
- Algeria
- Azerbaijan
- Belgium
- Canada
- China
- Denmark
- Dominican Republic
- El Salvador
- Fiji
- Finland
- France
- Georgia
- Germany
- Greece
- India
- Japan
- Jordan
- Kuwait
- Serbia
- Somalia
- Spain
- Sri Lanka
- United Arab Emirates
- United Kingdom
- United States of America
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| Subject: Re: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:25 am | |
| Lucien stood from his seat, arranging his notes and skimming over them one last time before he spoke.
"First of all," he started, "I'd like to start off by thanking each of you for the insights you brought to the table yesterday, and the clear dedication all of you have shown toward creating the best possible world for all of us. I think, truly, that we all want the same thing: safety and prosperity for all of those who depend on us. We only differ on how to achieve that goal.
"You have all brought up some interesting points--perhaps especially, those of you with whom I am inclined to disagree. At the end of the day, my goal here is not to win this argument, but to make the right decision, whatever that may be. That being said, while I acknowledge and appreciate the more conservative views in this room, I have not yet heard an argument that has swayed me from my own.
"For one, in regards to those of you who have characterized muggles as a danger to be feared," he looked to Aldric Förstner in particular as he said this, "I think you do not give our fellow humans enough credit. Perhaps once, a strong fear of the unknown quickly led to violence. But in my experience, with time and technological advancements, society has progressed in leaps and bounds. The world is more connected now than ever before. More open, more accepting. Muggles are not some alien race, or some terrifying monster. In fact, they're not so very different from ourselves. My coworkers are muggles, my friends are muggles. My father is a muggle. And all of them, from what I've seen, share the same goals and the same desires that we have now: to leave the world a little better than it was when we arrived.
"As to those of you who worry about weapons of mass destruction," he turned to the Japanese minister, "I tell you we would be in no more danger than we are already. A nuclear weapon cannot be solely directed at the magical population if we live alongside our muggle neighbors. The destruction of one would require the destruction of the other, and that is a risk no muggle politician that I know of would be willing to take. Nuclear missiles are already a threat to everyone on this planet, no matter whether or not they possess magical abilities. If one were to strike right now, it would annihilate all people, indiscriminately. The Statute would not protect us from that.
"And to the rest of you who voted nay, for perfectly legitimate reasons, I ask you this: how do you plan to uphold the Statute, if such a decision is not unanimous? The Statute itself is in a fragile position, if it is even on the table for discussion. For my part, I swear to uphold whatever decision we eventually come to, but the balance is beginning to tip. All it takes is one country to dissolve the old world order. Would it not be best to come together with a plan, should such an eventuality inevitably come to pass? Would it not be safest to embrace the future, before it has the opportunity to strike us first?
"If any of you have questions concerning my decision, consider the floor open. I hope above all that we can come to an understanding, if not a unanimous agreement." |
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| Subject: Re: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:43 pm | |
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The first day of be summit had made Valentina question a lot of things about her position. For one thing she had miscalculated her audience; most came of some higher upbringing and had the means for a promised successes without lifting a finger. Others grabbed success viciously and some simply wished for peace. She unfortunately fell into that category. She was naive in some ways of the world but she knew that no matter how much she prepped she would speak from the heart.
Today she wore a traditional garb of her country. She had the blue ribbons in her hair that pulled it back in a stylish bun. Her skirt was bright blue, to represent the flag and her off the shoulder blouse was an homage to her native people.
Today it seemed that there was a slight temptation to push buttons in a sly way. She saw China’s argument pushing against the point of view of the Dominican Republic and she felt for the representative that was particularly flustered. As it was her turn she murmured words of encouragement for her Latin country before moving to the podium herself.
“Good Morning, I do hope that we all took the opportunity of mulling over the perspectives that were shared dusk during our first day. I admit that I have and while I am not swayed and cannot be swayed of my position, I do wish for us to come to some peaceful agreeement or or at least a common ground.”
She took a deep breath before speaking one more. She refused to let her voice shake.
“And I do see a common ground. We all care about safety of our community and I think that’s a place to start. Safety of our kind, safety to the muggles and more importantly safety for the future generations. If we cannot form a perfect solution then a pragmatic approach is perhaps our best option to successfully come to a conclusion.”
“So while I do keep my option to ban the statute, if we perhaps formulate a system of safe integration we can move from there. I cannot help but wonder why we did not invite our muggle counterparts if even to see where their country stands. For as of now as my fellow Latin representative stated, magic is very much part of our lives, even if only in medicine and in the rural areas. If we integrate most of the shock would come from our magical world who has limited access to muggle items and culture. I’d like to stand on that platform. Integration through education until both worlds can harmoniously integrate. Thank you”
Stepping back she sat firmly down and ignored the shake of her hands. It was not what she wanted but she knew few would wish to actually listen to all sides of the discussion.
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| | | Louis Clement Adult
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| Subject: Re: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:06 pm | |
| Louis and Vanessa Clement sat quietly during the mornings additional debates that were being thrown around the room. There was little that most candidates were adding from the day before, and the questions posed were mostly rhetorical. Both the Lord and Lady Clement had expected as much, but neither one of them had switched off from the debate for a moment. It was, after all, very important to keep an eye on all of these things.
After Finland had delivered their speech, Louis readied himself to stand. Where the two of them had moved to the podium the previous day, Louis had agreed to take it himself today. After the short walk to the podium, Louis looked out across the faces before him, giving them a polite smile before he spoke.
"France abstains from further debate on the matter of the Summit." He told the room, giving a moment for that to sink in. Someone who wasn't quite so well versed in these matters might have shot from the podium in an instant, but Louis made certain that the room knew he was not running scared. "Thank you."
With that, Louis moved back to his seat beside his wife, and readied himself for the rest of the day's arguments. ________________________________________________~ Lord Clement ~ Profile ~ 55 ~
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| Subject: Re: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:39 pm | |
| There was just one thing that Aldric hated more than his daughter dabbling in the dark arts and that was being questioned on his decision of Germany voting nay in the upcoming vote. He had no reason to explain himself to people who did not get his view. He had explained once and he wasn't going to do it again.
Despite the clear fact that Aldric ruled Germany with an iron fist, it didn't stop Dark Lords from trying to rise in the country. More than once the Lord of the Underworld had to stand up and help the German ministry take down an up-and-coming Dark Lord. The Grindelwald war may be long over but the ramifications of the war and the memories still stayed and no matter how much people scoffed and told him, and by extension his country, to get over it, they never would be able to.
When it was his turn to step up to the podium, the German delegate paused before he approached the podium, nodding his head in greeting to the French delegates. They were the first to abstain and Aldric would follow their lead. No reason for him to keep repeating the same words over and over again.
"Germany will be abstaining from a further vote." He replied calmly, quietly and with force behind his voice, his piercing blue eyes cold as he scanned his fellow delegates. "We will not be changing our vote. Thank you."
No matter what anyone would tell him, Aldric would stick with his decision and he knew that his country would as well.
Stalking off the podium, the German wizard ignored the eyes that followed him as he went back to his seat. |
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| Subject: Re: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:56 pm | |
| The second day of the Summit went off without a hitch and, as Airi sat patiently in her place, listening to comments and questions from people, one of the youngest Ministers, formulated opinions and conclusions, her eyes shuttered as she watched as one by one each delegate went to stand and stiffly kept to their votes from the previous day. When it had been her turn, Airi serenely made her way onto the podium, her walk slow yet purposeful as she pretty much floated up onto the wooden stage, no matter how small.
"After listening to the arguments of my fellow delegates," Airi didn't hold eye contact with anyone, in particular, the witch held in mind quite a few people, ones that she would approach with caution during the Gala that evening. "I have come to one conclusion and that is that Japan will be voting Yay." Her words were met with shocked silence. She was the first to change her vote after the arguments that day. "Many of my fellows made quite good points in regards to removing the statue and as someone who has slowly help Magical Japan integrate into the muggle world without actually having my witches and wizards announce what they are, I feel that it would be in the best of my countries interest to have the statue lifted. After all, if we do not have it lifted, how are we to move on from our past?"
With that the witch left the stand and went back to her seat, ignoring the looks that followed her. |
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| Subject: Re: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:21 pm | |
| Why was there even a second day of this summit?
Debate would solve nothing.
It never did. People, in Yusuf's vast experience, were not swayed by others so easily when it came to political ideology. Plus, each delegate probably already carried a mandate from their respective country to vote in a certain way. No, the whole debate was a farce at best and a waste of time at worst. This was what bureaucracy was made of and this was what Yusuf hated with a burning passion.
"Somalia maintains its stance from the first day," the warlord stated with some difficulty—he didn't even bother to stand. "I have nothing to add to this talk, get on with it."
Shrugging to himself, Yusuf fell silent to allow the next delegate to speak. Nothing he said would matter to those gathered here. They'd all already chosen which side they were on and anyone who thought otherwise was fooling themselves.
Yusuf wasn't fooling himself. |
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| Subject: Re: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:19 pm | |
| The day had been moving in quite the same manner for the most part. Most candidates were simply not offering much more than to say they didn't wish to push their point any further. Kamren didn't think this was the best way forward, in truth. How could you possibly try to sway people's minds if you were not going to put something in their minds to work with?
This, he supposed, was what happened when you entrusted politics to the younger generations. Though, Kamren had to catch himself when the French delegates played the same card. A small frown touched his features at his neighbours actions, wondering why the Clements, of all people, had bowed away from furthering their argument.
Still, that had not been the biggest shock as the Japanese delegate stood and denoted a change of heart. A change of heart that Kamren had not seen coming, and therefore was stunned to hear. Especially seeing as the witch now voted against him. Pursing his lips slightly at that, Kamren listened to the other delegates -- not surprised to hear the Somalian delegate, Yusuf, say he was still abstaining from giving his own view.
Soon after that came Kamren's turn, and the man headed to the podium for his speech.
"I must say, when the Itinerary said debate... I'd expected much more of a... well, debate." Kamren started, letting out a soft laugh which a number of delegates joined in with a moment later. Even if it was a little bit of a dry laugh, it gave him something to work from. "I can't believe, in seriousness, so many of you would pass up the opportunity to get your points across. After all, why come if you didn't wish to push your own view?"
There was a pause whilst the room considered the rhetorical question Kamren had posed.
"I wish for all of you to consider for a moment, if only a moment, why you would, tomorrow, vote to change the whole of our world as we know it, without first knowing the impact this is going to have, not only in your country, but the whole world. Do any of us in this room truly know the outcome? We have stood up here and painted the idea of a bloodbath when people know our secret, others among us have stood up here and talked about a utopia being created by letting the secret be known to all.
"But, do any of us truly know what will happen after tomorrow if we allow ourselves to make a decision based on little to no evidence?" Kamren asked, allowing the poignant questions to settle for a moment. "I'm voting against removing the statute tomorrow, because I cannot say what the removal will do to our world. I can't be certain that we will get to the utopia so many of you dream of. I'm voting against the removal because I would rather we met up again, and brainstormed how to do this properly, how to ensure the lives of our children are not put in to jeopardy.
"I know, and I respect the fact, that many of you have already made your decisions. Many of you may not change your mind even after hearing my speech. But, I urge all of you to take a moment, and ask yourself, do we not owe it to future generations to do this the right way, and not rush in to the unknown?"
Kamren looked out across the room, and gave a small nod of his head. "Thank you for your time, and may I hope that we all come to the right decision tomorrow."
With that Kamren moved from the podium back to his seat beside Mycroft. He was not hopeful, truthfully, but if his speech could make even an ounce of difference to the votes tomorrow, it would have been enough. |
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| Subject: Re: ICWW Summit: Day 2 Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:46 pm | |
| Being the final nation to speak up had its ups and downs. Jackson was in the unique position of hearing everyone out before his own reply was formed, and therefore able to answer more questions than others. However, this also meant he had to sit through what seemed utter pointlessness at certain times. So when there was nothing of substance said for him to note down, the young wizard did what he did best. He observed the delegates.
Entitlement, Jackson had found, was prominent on all social platforms, and politics was no different. Even from the way some of these people stood or sat, he could tell which representatives came from a cushy background and generations of wealth to those who had actually worked their way up, fighting for a position no one would willingly give them. It was reflected in how each candidate viewed the proceedings. With arrogance and amusement or importance and interest.
When the British Minister implored everyone to rethink their decision before hurtling the world into an uncertain future, the words spoke to Jackson. Truth be told, he was very much of the America First mentality. He was also almost certain that no matter what happened, the US magical congress would not allow magic to go public. Their government had used force and deceit to keep the nation ignorant before, why should this be any different?
It also helped that he wasn't the only one supporting an outcome that didn't involve mass hysteria in the near future. Almost ten nations had agreed to his point of view. Some of the Arabians had even suggested stricter sanctions on countries and states that were currently violating the statute, oblivious of the dirty looks they were getting from the rest of the congregation.
Jackson rose to his feet politely, taking the podium in calm, easy strides. "It seems the British Minister has had a peek at my notes," he began, trying to inject humor at the end of the dire warning. "I have heard everyone who spoke today and while I may not agree with some of you, I do appreciate you bringing your points forth - for those who actually did bring their points forth." A pointed glance at the Somali representatives, the Clements, the German Chancellor. "I fel that discussing the establishment of an institution that has long protected our people should not be discussed without some kind of procedure for said astonishment in place. We need to talk logistics, how to realistically merge the magical world with The no mag's. And then we should debate on the merits of the process and how it can be improved."
Falling quiet, Jackson counted to three in his head, making sure he had everyone attention before he uttered the final words. "And until such time as someone proposes an actual, applicable way to do so, the United States of America stands firm in it's belief that the sanctity of the Statute should be upheld."
With that, the dark haired wizard left the podium, leaving the floor for the secretary to retake and end the day's long proceedings. ________________________________________________ | |
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